Battle of the MMORPG's!

[thedeadlyassassin]

I suggest we all play Guild Wars 2 when it comes out. Why? It's going to be awesome. It's going to be free. And it's going to be team based.


Here's just my opinion on the BATTLE OF MMORPGS!!!

The gladiators = the 3 mmorpg's I've played and are probably 3 of the top mmorpgs.


RuneScape vs Guild Wars vs World of Warcraft


(best , middle, worst)


So here's my opinion in each.



GRAPHICS

Guild Wars - WoW - RuneScape (RS and WoW nearly tied after RS major graphic update)


PVP

Guild Wars - WoW - RuneScape

Skills (professions)

RuneScape - WoW - Guild Wars

Time Based

RuneScape - WoW - Guild Wars

Storyline

Guild Wars - RuneScape - WoW

Quests

WoW - Guild Wars - RuneScape

Achievements

RuneScape - Guild Wars - WoW

Money based

RuneScape - WoW - Guild Wars

No Monthly fee

Guild Wars - RuneScape - WoW (unless private server)

Bug Free

RuneScape - Guild wars - WoW (assuming you are on a private server)

Teamwork

Guild Wars - WoW - RuneScape

Leveling

RuneScape - WoW - Guild Wars

Grinding (leveling up via killing)

RuneScape - WoW - Guild Wars

Powerleveling

Guild Wars - WoW - RuneScape

Interaction with players not in your party

WoW - RuneScape - Guild Wars

Interaction with your party

Guild Wars - WoW - RuneScape

Winner of Deadly's best MMORPG award

*GUILD WARS*


so... we should all get guild wars 2 when it comes out. You buy the game for about 50 bucks, and can play online for free, with tons of things to do. Fun PVP you can do, fun farming you can do, and overall a challenge. You get to the maximum level pretty fast. Some may hate that, but others like me may love that because that means the game is always a challenge. No being the maximum level and being able to help your friends beat the campaign easily. You must have a good team and build to be able to dominate.


Great game, there isn't a release date but they said sometime in December is what they are aiming for.

[{CLR} Naillik]

should be Guild Wars vs World of Warcraft.. I don't see how runescape is even in the same quality range of those 2.

I may get GW2 when it comes out, seems interesting, but then again maybe not

My :2cents: here

GRAPHICS

Guild Wars - WoW


PVP

WoW - Guild Wars

Skills (professions)

WoW - Guild Wars

Time Based

Don't understand this one

Storyline

WoW and GW tie in this one, though the WoW one is more complex and pretty insanely epic..

Quests

WoW - Guild Wars

Achievements

WoW - Guild Wars ... I never felt any sense of achievement when playing GW, other than capturing an elite skill... on the other hand, completing a raid or dungeon in WoW gives you fun, a sense of achievement, and items. GW rarely does this, and there are no instances, other than the directly storylined missions, which bored me.

Money based

Not understanding this one.

No Monthly fee

Guild Wars - WoW (obviously :D)

Bug Free

They tie in this one. the majority dont play on private servers.

Teamwork

WoW - Guild Wars. Teamwork in guild wars was... tiny. A simple matter of kill the healer first then go have fun.

Leveling

WoW - Guild Wars.. Cmon, 20 levels in GW, 70 in WoW. A tiny limited world in GW vs. 2 huge worlds you dont have to go through loading screens to get around in.

Grinding (leveling up via killing)

WoW has more grinding than GW, in part I'm pretty sure because of the level caps. I rarely grinded in WoW, but people do, largely because some quests are too hard, and/or that ppl can get plenty of gold and XP by grinding certain mobs.

Powerleveling

Guild Wars - WoW.. powerleveling? seriously? lol

Interaction with players not in your party

WoW - Guild Wars

Interaction with your party

WoW - Guild Wars.. You rarely have to talk with your party in Guild Wars..

Winner of Naillik's best MMORPG award

*WoW*


lol..... I had to do that for myself :D

GW is fun and all, but I don't think it has the same wow factor as WoW

[thedeadlyassassin]

Sorry Nallik to say this but you seem like a noob to guild wars :oops:


There are no "instances" there are dungeons. VERY rewarding and VERY challenging. In WoW, you kill a one dude and pray you don't aggro another. In GW, you kill a huge group and pray you don't aggro another.


Kill the healer first? It's easier to kill the healer first in WoW. In Guild Wars, it requires a LOT of teamwork to be able to take down 1 monk... 1 simple monk. Watch one of the guild battles and you'll see what I mean.

I mean by money based as money pays a big factor in the game. RuneScape requires money, without it you're weak.

Oh for achievements, again in guild wars there are titles. They use to be rare until people complained that they were too hard to obtain (which is what they're suppose to be) so they toned them down a notch but made good rewards for those that got all the titles.

How does WoW beat Guild Wars in PvP? In guild wars there are tons of arenas, tons of teamwork, and best of all guild battles. In WoW the only thing that you can do is enter one of the arenas or have a massive battle outside of town.

In guild wars, the whole game is based on PvP strategy. No one team is better than the other in character, only the real person sitting behind the desk.

Btw, how was teamwork in guild wars tiny? If you walked the world alone... you'd die.

From what I see, there is no storyline in WoW. just do quests and be happy about it. Oh and there is horde vs alliance... but that's no real storyline. Guild wars has Luxon vs Kurzick.

Yet again, if you know how to play guild wars, you always need to talk. Much more than in WoW.

And for time based, I mean that it takes a LONG time to accomplish something. Besides titles, guild wars can be beat in about 3 days (if you're playing non stop that is). In WoW, it takes about 50 days to get lvl 70 if you're a hardcore player lol.

[{CLR} Naillik]

50 days to 70 if your a hardcore player? I had 2 lvl 70's with about 24 full days.

and forgot something - GW is a bunch of big instances. The normal game world for running around is an instance. Too much like a single player game for me. In WoW, you kill a group of people using CC skills and focusing on different targets. In GW, I never got anything decent other than some XP and gold from one of those "dungeons" (I assume by dungeon you mean things like sorrows furnace and fissure of woe?) and some mats for an item.
I prefer a few really tough things to kill rather than a whole bunch of annoying little things.

And about killing the healer first in GW, thats exactly my point..... The only thing that does require teamwork is killing a healer, lol. Sure you'll likely die trying to get from 1 place to the other without ppl, but there's the henchmen... easy peazy..

Titles in GW are so common now that they arent really worth anythin imo... whereas becoming Champion of the Naruu or something similar in WoW gets you a bunch of nice jobs and woahs..

GW pvp, there are arenas (no more than WoW), WoW has battlegrounds, which are loads more fun than the alliance battles in GW. You can attack and be attacked anywhere in WoW (for the most part), which adds to the risk/fun. cant forget to mention Halaa, or raids on the Horde towns and cities. Also, WoW pvp depends on gear as well as skilled positioning and playing. GW is just skill, and I prefer the achievement factor of killing a lvl 70 with full pvp gear while I am 69 and have average.

There is a huge storyline in WoW for almost every area, and those stories are all linked to the grand overall story. Black Temple, Magtheridons Lair, Coilfang Resevoir, and Tempest Keep, are all linked together in a pretty epic way, which made Outland what it was. thats not even counting the story behind every single instance and raid in azeroth and outland.


And I played GW for a while, about a year and a half with 8 lvl 20's :)

another :2cents: lol :D:2thumbs:

[thedeadlyassassin]

You must have not played recently. The Henchmen really suck. They did add heros, but a computer can never beat another player. You never got anything in fissure of Woe? You really must have only killed one thing and gave up. Last time I ventured in there I came out twice as rich.

The game is based on player ability, no armor is better than the other, they just look a lot cooler.

And little annoying things? Play Hardmode. Those little annoying things are destructive to the group besides just annoyance. Titles mean nothing? With titles you unlock new skills, builds, areas, and best of all... the coolest pet in the game.

In WoW, is there a guild vs guild? I don't think so...

And the storyline in wow. Are you serious about talking to Thrall about "hidden enemies" a decent storyline? I go kill a guy that plays no factor towards the game. Or I get told to go kill a million stupid boars.

In Guild Wars, I get told to kill a boss surrounded by his army. Sure, you get told to kill bosses in WoW, but you can pick off his army 1 by 1, and that just ruins the challenge.

And overall the thing I hate MOST about WoW. Some lvl 30's are better than others (NPCs Im talking about). I went near south shore in the hillsbrad hills or whatever to kill some dwarves. They said lvl 27-30. These things acted as lvl 40's. That I can't stand. If it's got the strength of a lvl 40... IT SHOULD BE A LVL 40. Even with elites... Guild wars had bosses, but they were at least recognized by a higher level. So there is no level 7 boss stronger than a level 7 creature in guild wars.

And another reason I dislike WoW is it's a follow up from WC3. Factions was a followup from Prophecies in Guild Wars. WoW is nothing like WC3 (or at least the storyline). The Undead have no reason to be with the horde. The Draenei have no reason to be with the alliance... THEY WORKED WITH THE BLOOD ELVES.
Ironically though, the blood elves should be with the alliance... because THEY ARE ON THE HUMAN TEAM IN SKRIMISH.

And lastly, they are allied with Illidan and his Naga, yet they can raid and kill Illidan? I know they wanted to make it a challenge... but cmon...

Oh... and Illidan was killed. I'm still confused to how he has returned

[{CLR} Naillik]

you must not know the story of WoW all that well ;)
class is a major thing in WoW... thats probably the reason some things were harder to kill. it explains also why there are different BE's than illidans boys...
And well the fact about things were harder than others is what I like... More challenge.. and the instances in WoW rarely have armies. You get told to go find this guy and kill him, go find this thing in this place, but you fight your way through. I prefer that over the typical GW "mission" thing, as in follow this single choice of path (in a big outdoor area?) to this, and kill it to proceed. In WoW you can pretty much stop when you feel like and not be limited to where you can go.

Thing I absolutely hate about GW, is the gear. It's all the same. Half of an MMO is going around and finding great kinds of gear and other loot. GW with the fact that its rare to find a decent weapon, and half the time its more valuable if you just salvage it for mats (borring..). Also the 0 chance of ever getting new armor unless you go around and get mats... WoW you can do a quest, a dungeon, randomly find something good (without that crappy "20% chance of this!" in GW) in a chest.

Bosses in GW were amazingly easy with almost no special abilities or tactics that you had to employ in order to defeat it. Sure maybe it had an elite skill, but that skill just hit you and made you die, and made the fight irritating. WoW, bosses have a ton of unique abilities with clear visual effects that could devestate your party. The only boss in GW that I can think of that does those is the very end boss in each chapter.

The Undead have no reason to be with the horde. The Draenei have no reason to be with the alliance... THEY WORKED WITH THE BLOOD ELVES.
Ironically though, the blood elves should be with the alliance... because THEY ARE ON THE HUMAN TEAM IN SKRIMISH.

You didn't get very far in WoW did you? lol.
draeni have reason to be with alliance, cause alliance found and helped them first (+ the horde completely demolished their population earlier). Same with Blood elves - the population part. Undead have reason to be with horde - as in, if you were a human, would you chat with a rotting human corpse? uh uh.. and again, the horde helped them.
:2thumbs:

[TEAMKILLERZ]

I suggest we all play Guild Wars 2 when it comes out. Why? It's going to be awesome. It's going to be free. And it's going to be team based.


Here's just my opinion on the BATTLE OF MMORPGS!!!

The gladiators = the 3 mmorpg's I've played and are probably 3 of the top mmorpgs.


RuneScape vs Guild Wars vs World of Warcraft


(best , middle, worst)


So here's my opinion in each.



GRAPHICS

Guild Wars - WoW - RuneScape (RS and WoW nearly tied after RS major graphic update)


PVP

Guild Wars - WoW - RuneScape

Skills (professions)

RuneScape - WoW - Guild Wars

Time Based

RuneScape - WoW - Guild Wars

Storyline

Guild Wars - RuneScape - WoW

Quests

WoW - Guild Wars - RuneScape

Achievements

RuneScape - Guild Wars - WoW

Money based

RuneScape - WoW - Guild Wars

No Monthly fee

Guild Wars - RuneScape - WoW (unless private server)

Bug Free

RuneScape - Guild wars - WoW (assuming you are on a private server)

Teamwork

Guild Wars - WoW - RuneScape

Leveling

RuneScape - WoW - Guild Wars

Grinding (leveling up via killing)

RuneScape - WoW - Guild Wars

Powerleveling

Guild Wars - WoW - RuneScape

Interaction with players not in your party

WoW - RuneScape - Guild Wars

Interaction with your party

Guild Wars - WoW - RuneScape

Winner of Deadly's best MMORPG award

*GUILD WARS*


so... we should all get guild wars 2 when it comes out. You buy the game for about 50 bucks, and can play online for free, with tons of things to do. Fun PVP you can do, fun farming you can do, and overall a challenge. You get to the maximum level pretty fast. Some may hate that, but others like me may love that because that means the game is always a challenge. No being the maximum level and being able to help your friends beat the campaign easily. You must have a good team and build to be able to dominate.


Great game, there isn't a release date but they said sometime in December is what they are aiming for.

With the game opinion of how good the game is I think its a tie for WoW and GW, but on a more personal level, I would chose GW because most of my friends in real-life have played Guild Wars (I've even seen the "cooler" kids playing it), and WoW just fails in my point of view personally, Two relationships with my friends just dissolved after they got WoW because the only time I ended up seeing them was at school.

[{CLR} Naillik]

With the game opinion of how good the game is I think its a tie for WoW and GW, but on a more personal level, I would chose GW because most of my friends in real-life have played Guild Wars (I've even seen the "cooler" kids playing it), and WoW just fails in my point of view personally, Two relationships with my friends just dissolved after they got WoW because the only time I ended up seeing them was at school.

proof of how good WoW is, lol. It's a #&$#@ in addiction levels ( I get hooked on games in the first place, so yea :D). If this were in terms of, say social levels IRL, then GW would definantly win, lol :D

[DougBob]

I just don't like WoW because they charge. GW was smarter by not charging for online play and keeping their price on the game the same without ever discounting it.

[warlock2411]

everyones counting our WAR.. gonna be much better than all 3.. u just wait :P

[TEAMKILLERZ]

everyones counting our WAR.. gonna be much better than all 3.. u just wait :P

Yeah Dude I think its gonna rock, and this is coming from a person in Closed Beta.

[warlock2411]

Yeah Dude I think its gonna rock, and this is coming from a person in Closed Beta.

:pissed:ive tried forever to get into that!

[TEAMKILLERZ]

:pissed:ive tried forever to get into that!

Don't worry you'll get into open beta :mutley:


P.S. All characters from Closed beta will be erased when open beta starts and all open beta characters will be erased when the game is released.

[Brian is Huh?!{CLR}]

go to MMORPG.com - Your Headquarters for Massive Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Games! (http://www.mmorpg.com)

they still got 2k Open beta keys so get them
i got only 1 but still deciding.. looks alike like wow.. i hate wow >_>

waiting for huxley :D

[TEAMKILLERZ]

go to MMORPG.com - Your Headquarters for Massive Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Games! (http://www.mmorpg.com)

they still got 2k Open beta keys so get them
i got only 1 but still deciding.. looks alike like wow.. i hate wow >_>

waiting for huxley :D

Dude It looks liek WoW but its not. I swear the marauders have a cool mechanic where you can mutate yourself to get different powers. And you can mix mutations.

[Thrashdragon]

Guild Wars is not an MMO, it is a lot closer to Diablo than it is to WoW. Take out the "Massive" component of an MMO, instance everything, dumb it down, and you have Guild Wars.

I don't think you can even compare the two, honestly. There's a reason MMO players don't like Guild Wars and vice versa, they don't appeal to the same crowd.

[Hunter_Killer]

why not check out Rohan?

http://www.playrohan.com

Its got graphics kinda like Wow's, its free, its clan based and its got something no other mmorpg has that i know of: hit lists.

The hit list: Clan lvl and Personal lvl is for those that get pked and think the odds were out of their favor. You go too a vengence npc and select who who want to get from your hit list. You are teleported to their location if they are online and in a combat zone. Simply: vengence is sweet.

[{CLR} Naillik]

i'll try it out :)
edit: 1.61 gb! :shock:

[Hunter_Killer]

Heh it wouldn't be my lead suggestion for nothing.

Thats the one im using now to write some short stories and a few novels. The set up is amazing.

[maka.]

Guild Wars.

Shhhhhh.

No.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Guild Wars.

Yes.

That's right.

Guild Wars.

[{CLR} Naillik]

Brian, I hate you. :D
I went to that website and got lost in reading WoW articles for an hour and a half.. only just pulled out again :P :D

[Hunter_Killer]

*cough* ROHAN *cough*

[Trooper110]

*cough* Warhammer *cough* Picking it up today after I cover for a weekend shift at work, everyone I know playing it (from Dark Age of Camelot, Age of Conan, World of Warcraft) says it kicks complete ass.

I was in the Guild Wars beta, it didn't change much for release from the final beta from what I understand. I didn't like it then, I wouldn't play it now. There's entirely too much instancing and not enough of the open socialization that I like in MMOs. I don't like the feel of GW, personally I don't like WoW, I played DAoC for close to 7 years, AoC for a few months, and I've been in the open beta, if not closed betas for almost every major MMO since 2001. Or played the free week, 2 weeks, whatever the offers are. I know it's all personal opinion though, so arguing over which MMO is best is kind of stupid, you'll never get people to agree on it. You couldn't pay me to play Guild Wars or World of Warcraft, but I'll pay for other MMOs.

[Hunter_Killer]

i heard it sux but thats just my circle... including gimmie...

[Gimmie2]

i heard it sux but thats just my circle... including gimmie...

ya
:2thumbs:
all of the people who i know that played it said it was like wow but with less action (if that was even possible) and Rohan is awesome.

[K PhaNTOM]

omg! nerd wars! hide you retainers!

I am personally with Doug, I won't play a game that charges me money.... I can have anything I want if I saved that 15 bucks a month and spent it on something else.... then again, I have no life nor something to spend it on :cry::twisted:

[Hunter_Killer]

ya
:2thumbs:
all of the people who i know that played it said it was like wow but with less action (if that was even possible) and Rohan is awesome.


speaking of which... apart from playing CoD4(thats a given) want to meet up on Rohan again?

ALSO: Rohan is free if you dont want to PAY for the game

[BigTwinky]

Personal opinion on Warhammer Online.
This coming from someone who has been playing MMOs since 1996’s UO beta, spent years in the genre, 15k posts on various MMO forums, gaming community coordinator, played on test servers, etc etc.
UO, DAOC, CoH, GW, EQ2 were my mainstains with 6+ months in each. AC , AC2, WoW, Eve, and many others under 3 months, but still enough to make an opinion.

WAR is similar to WoW in its functionality. And why wouldn’t it? Yep, it has mailboxes, auction houses and so on… they are just reusing what has been done in the past and works.

Coming from someone who is tired of the standard MMO genre, WAR has a very interesting component in that you can level almost solely on PvP / RvR. You queue up for a scenario, you can run around doing quests and all, once you are up, you go. Or you can do open field siege warfare… all the while, getting good exp.

Ex: I kill a mob solo and get 250xp. I kill a player in a group of 6 and I get 125xp. At the end of the scenario (lasts 5-15 mins), I can get a bonus of 10,000 exp if I win or 5,000 exp if I lost. Plus killing a player has a random change of having a nice loot item drop on his body.

The PvP is fast, its fun, its open. The classes are pretty well balanced. As typical with Mythic, one realm is not a copy of the other (like in WoW where you had the same Mage class on either side). So nerf cries are abundant.

The game is still an MMO and I won’t be playing this for years to come. But it does appeal to a different group of people, those who love PvP. But…it also has some good PvE, Public Story based chapter quests and so on. Next to no zoning, taking a mount from the flight master just has a cut scene to load instead of you sitting on the mount for 45 mins as you fly from zone to zone.

Will the game last? I think so. Smooth launch, well received by the player base, Mythic has been on the ball on fixing issues (unlike Funcom with AoC, which I also played).

And Thrash is right about Guild Wars not being an MMO. Its not massive. Having 300 people in town doesn’t make it massive. All it is is a graphical representation of BattleNet for Diablo where instead of just finding groups in a search list, you can move around with your toon. Everything else is instanced, which is why I really did not like the game. Same reason CoH didn’t last with me.

[Hunter_Killer]

Rohan is hitting MMO lvls but its hitting a slight depression n members right now. It has all the standard things WoW has, but it has some features that are different. I dont want to explain again right now

[Gimmie2]

Rohan is hitting MMO lvls but its hitting a slight depression n members right now. It has all the standard things WoW has, but it has some features that are different. I dont want to explain again right now

but best of all.... IT IS

FREE
and no im not playing it right now.... remember i got hacked.... all 5 of my players got taken and my pass and recovery question were changed

[[PNUT]Linus]

well i just noticed this thread :D color me slow! anyways, i usually play as...get ready for it {CLR}Shi on CL servers. I also occupy the names of Miley Cyrus and Hannah Montana :D anyways yeah...i capped two profiles in CoD 4 and then i got...

my beta invite for WAR.

I have one friend who is so absolutely fanatic about the whole warhammer IP that he has been playing the table top for...the last 17 years. I fig'd i would try it out, must be different than WoW (that i just sold a 3 and a half year account on :D) and therefore it might satiate my desire to kill a mofo here and there.

i rolled on an RP server first off with my friends, got a Chosen to rank 20/renown rank 16...then had to try out other servers. Now i'm a 26/20+ Disciple of Khaine on Dark Crag (open rvr...only way to roll imo :D). Population on servers will make and break servers on this game. It's a nasty fact that i wish weren't true but RvR is heavily dependant on the people to kill on both sides, and with that a heavy pop server is waaaay different than playing on a wasteland.

So far i am really enjoying the game, especially on Dark Crag. I've met a good amount of people in addition to talking some of my ol' pvp crew from WoW rolling on my server. The game does an awesome job of cutting out the middle man so to speak with an MMO. There are just a ton of little things that i appreciate about the game...and only one that i dislike.

It won't run on a toaster like WoW will :(

The damn thing was quick to tell me "HEY! you might wanna consider a new video card..."

It was during a keep siege with atleast 50 people each side with more on the sidelines...kinda like braveheart without the skirts and losing your sack for defiant actions. pretty intense.

enjoyable game, and yes...i believe it will definitely stick around for the long haul once the WoWhiners are weeded out that don't understand the actual game mechanics. gawd they'll complain about anything!

if you guys ever decide to try the game out, gimme a holler on Dark Crag and sign up for our guild! <Axe to Mouth>

take it easy breezy!

-Shi-

[Toryu72]

I say only Warhammer Online. I had an lvl at 10 wasted an enemy from order at lvl 11 or 12, get a good xp :P
Now it is at lvl 15 now.. :P

I have try little of guild wars but i don't like it. Sorry. So bye with that one.

World of Warcarft i do play but taking a break from it now..thanks to Warhammer. :wink:

[Pumpkin_Jack]

Ok im going guild wars over wow and when gw2 comes out ill probily buy it right now im busy with fallout3 and farcry 2, should last me up till x-mas