Operating system

[alpha]

So, what OS is everybody running, just out of curiosity?

(if dual boot, what do you use more often when playing games)

[lilfoo]

XP here. if wine worked better i would switch to linux more then likely gento or slackwear.

[Thrashdragon]

XP, but only because I got tired of finding all the BS workarounds that Microsoft was paying devs to put in their games to make sure that they "required" XP, when they ran just fine (and in most cases, much better) under Win2000.

[Master_Chief_Alpha]

XP MCE 2005 here.

I'm so dissatisfied with most windows builds, but there is no alternative out there with a good amount of games that support it.

Tried x64, vista(also while it was longhorn) and "Windows Essentials for Legacy PCs"

All virus bait IMO

[juneau]

XP. :D

[Apache Warrior]

XP on all of mine, including the ones at my store.
Apache

[Dead...Again]

I dual boot XP Home and Vista Ultimate x64. I am forced to game on XP, though, 'cause Belkin hasn't released a Vista x64 driver for the N52 yet...
EDIT: I misread the OP, and put vista when I guess I should have put XP.

[{CLR} Naillik]

XP. :2thumbs:

[Darkrain371]

XP :2thumbs: now tryed VISTA and it sucks big time :pissed:

[Duke{CLR}]

I am running XP on my laptop and I am running Both XP and Vista Busines. I rarley use Vista.

[mapes]

I'm a linux zealot, however even I relise that linux just dosn't have the gaming thing going for it at all.

[Trooper110]

XP, I'm not even considering switching to Vista until they make a lot of changes or I really really want DX10 when games become commonplace for it.

[imlittlev]

XP, and im stickin with it until Vista is a need.

[Mr_Hat]

XP here. I'll begin thinking about possibly upgrading to Vista at some point after SP1 is released. I BETA tested Vista actually and it has it's ups and downs but I'm holding off for now. Security is very cumbersome and I have a lot of software that doesn't like it.

[Murder Simulator]

XP FTW until vista gets better drivers or until the first directx 10 game comes along that I simply must play.

[darth_nevus]

XP, until if/when linux catches up. i am not looking forward to VISTA.

[Darkrain371]

Vista is so bad i had to come back to xp because vista should never have been relesed because not much is comptiable with it :D

[marvindecrain]

XP on my desktop and wife`s laptop is running Linux Mandriva 2007...

I`v try vista in developing state and now full version ultimate but still don`t want this...:)

[CarbonFire]

XP till Vista64 grows up. Vista 32 just isn't compelling enough over XP to make the switch, especially considering the downsides of the OS (heavy DRM, unstable/unproven architecture, driver support, etc.).

And Linux might be a viable OS for business and if you want to put in the time, for gaming - but I'm too lazy to spend half my time making custom installations in order to get Linux to work with Windows games :P

[Master_Chief_Alpha]

I'm waiting for Vista X64 to mature.

not because i approve, but because I have no other alternative.

One good thing about Vista x64 right now? It made many companies rush to release x64 drivers. Now, my XPx64 has full list of drivers for all my components.

[WalkinTarget]

Where's the dual boot option ??? :P :2thumbs:

[Storm_Shadow]

Where's the dual boot option ??? :P :2thumbs: YEAH! I know there are many (if not everyone) who would like to exercise the 'Dual Boot' on EA from time to time. :roll:

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Oop, not quite hitting the mark here. Sorry. :D
:back:

[alpha]

Where's the dual boot option ??? :P :2thumbs:

ah, you thought i didn't think of that :(

read my first post of the thread more carefully

(PS notice that there are no edits, it was there from the beginning)

XP for games, Vista for business.

Tried UT2k4 on Vista and runs great but I get about 15 FPS less than XP on the exact same hardware.

[paceman]

XP on my gaming rig.

Linux on my server.

[WalkinTarget]

alpha .. its currently a toss-up for games on Vista. Most newer games are running fine under Vista, but it only takes one game that I love to make me say 'screw it' and boot back to XP.

[L_Mo]

Dang, am I the only one who uses Linux for games too?

I actually use XP64 for BF2142, but this is a recent thing. Until 2142 I would play Steam games and a game called Subspace (Continuum, nowadays) on Ubuntu.

I got BF2142 because I thought it looked cool shortly after I switched my desktop back to XP. I switched for my wife who is pretty good with computers, but never used it enough to get familiar with Linux.

I guess I'm not really a Linux nut, I just use it b/c that's what I used for a long time doing data analysis... Oh as a side note Cedega (which runs Steam almost perfectly) now supports 2142.. I'll have to check it out on my laptop sometime.

[lilfoo]

I guess I'm not really a Linux nut, I just use it b/c that's what I used for a long time doing data analysis... Oh as a side note Cedega (which runs Steam almost perfectly) now supports 2142.. I'll have to check it out on my laptop sometime.

pay for anything + linux = against ideals. thats what happened to the gentoo distro was pay for a while but eventually went free and it is my favorite one. thanks though, i have been out of linux since wine would never be up to snuff. you have given me a new hope :D

-Edit: after about 20 min. of digging though the site i found a way to access the source (ads for pay us now everywhere). did you get it from source and compile it yourself L_Mo? if you did can you PM how or direct me to the site that told you how. i was never good at building stuff from source only getting what i wanted done done.

[darth_nevus]

I guess I'm not really a Linux nut, I just use it b/c that's what I used for a long time doing data analysis... Oh as a side note Cedega (which runs Steam almost perfectly) now supports 2142.. I'll have to check it out on my laptop sometime.

pay for anything + linux = against ideals. thats what happened to the gentoo distro was pay for a while but eventually went free and it is my favorite one. thanks though, i have been out of linux since wine would never be up to snuff. you have given me a new hope :D

-Edit: after about 20 min. of digging though the site i found a way to access the source (ads for pay us now everywhere). did you get it from source and compile it yourself L_Mo? if you did can you PM how or direct me to the site that told you how. i was never good at building stuff from source only getting what i wanted done done.

+1, this could be intresting... btw, whats the site?

[L_Mo]

-Edit: after about 20 min. of digging though the site i found a way to access the source (ads for pay us now everywhere). did you get it from source and compile it yourself L_Mo? if you did can you PM how or direct me to the site that told you how. i was never good at building stuff from source only getting what i wanted done done.

TransGaming wants you to pay for a "subscription" to their site, which gives you a few perks I guess... However, Cedega itself is still (mostly) free. I've compiled the CVS version a few times, it should be just:

./configure
make depend
make

If you're on ubuntu make sure you have the linux headers package, the compilation packages (build-essential) and whatnot. See www.ubuntuguide.org for a how-to on setting up your system to compile things...

However, the easiest method is to get a compiled version on mininova. This is a gray area since the version on mininova is the one you get for paying, not the one on CVS... Which route you go depends on how you feel about it. The version on mininova has worked for me, it has instructions on how to install.

[mapes]

pay for anything + linux = against ideals.

This isn't exactly right. Its not ideals per say. It a matter of licensing. There are really three license models out there. Closed Propritery License, GNU and BSD.

Closed is normal license agreement.

1.You can't freely distribute.
2. You cannot modify

The linux kernel and lots of utilities are released uder the GNU license. Which says

1. You can freely use this code.
2. You must make any derivative works freely availible.

So businesses are a little standoffish about using code they can't sell (this is called GNU taint) However many many many businesses make software to run ontop of linux and they sell it. Because they wrote it for linux is inconsequential. Basicly as long as they didn't use any GNU code they can sell it. Most of these companies are in the server or large corp enterprise markets. But a couple of quick ones are vmware, wine, sourcefire, Checkpoint, ximian

I personally like the BSD license which says.

1. Do wtf you want with this code just keep this license with it.

By the way most of the implementations of TCP/IP are based on the BSD source because it's so open. You could take this free product and make something from it and then patent it and sell it. I actually worked for a company that did. Thank you regents of california universities!

[darth_nevus]

-Edit: after about 20 min. of digging though the site i found a way to access the source (ads for pay us now everywhere). did you get it from source and compile it yourself L_Mo? if you did can you PM how or direct me to the site that told you how. i was never good at building stuff from source only getting what i wanted done done.

TransGaming wants you to pay for a "subscription" to their site, which gives you a few perks I guess... However, Cedega itself is still (mostly) free. I've compiled the CVS version a few times, it should be just:

./configure
make depend
make

If you're on ubuntu make sure you have the linux headers package, the compilation packages (build-essential) and whatnot. See www.ubuntuguide.org for a how-to on setting up your system to compile things...

However, the easiest method is to get a compiled version on mininova. This is a gray area since the version on mininova is the one you get for paying, not the one on CVS... Which route you go depends on how you feel about it. The version on mininova has worked for me, it has instructions on how to install.

********************linux newbie here.

where the heck do i get it without paying for it. i.e. the said CVS version?

Yes, i am running ubuntu. step by step is the best since its a new world to me.

make it as dumb as possible for starters.

[lilfoo]

for dummy's link:
http://www.transgaming.com/license.php?source=1

takes you right to the license agreements and then to the CVS to download it. i swear they hid it so well....

thanks a lot L_Mo for showing what great steps have been taken forward in gaming for linux. i will prolly be going back soon now once i get a new HD b/c i dont wana have to stop and redo this one if i mess up. thanks ^^

[L_Mo]

Ouch, sorry, I forgot to post the link to the CVS download. Here's the step-by-step to get you started:

1) Open up a console, type "mkdir ~/Cedega/" to make a Cedega directory in your home directory
2) Go to http://www.transgaming.com/license.php?source=1
3) "Read" the various licensing agreement. You probably agree, so click "I agree"
4) Type the 3 commands under "To checkout a new CVS repository"
5) "cd" into your Cedega directory, read the README file carefully
6) Type "./configure" "make depend" and "make" in that directory

Now, you'll need to make sure you have build-essential installed. Check out www.ubuntuguide.org or specifically here (http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Basic_Compilers_.28buil d-essential.29) for more information on that.

My final warning is it might not work, I don't want to mislead you by saying Cedega is super easy to use. From the command line, it's really not. For newer Linux users I would honestly suggest going to http://www.mininova.org and downloading Cedega 6.0 (specifically you want this (http://www.mininova.org/tor/657440) and this (http://www.mininova.org/tor/657439)).

If you download the file from mininova you'll see a .deb file
1) Install the .deb file using the packaging system using "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb" (replace filename with the real filename...)
2) Run cedega (just type 'cedega' in console)
3) Install the engine by clicking the TransGaming menu and clicking "install local update" and select the engine file

Good luck! ;)

[mapes]

for dummy's link:
http://www.transgaming.com/license.php?source=1

takes you right to the license agreements and then to the CVS to download it. i swear they hid it so well....

thanks a lot L_Mo for showing what great steps have been taken forward in gaming for linux. i will prolly be going back soon now once i get a new HD b/c i dont wana have to stop and redo this one if i mess up. thanks ^^


I as I was trying to say transgaming dosn't have to release they're software for free. they only have to do that if it's released under the GNU license. They can make software that runs on linux and charge you for it. Now if they release it under GNU they HAVE to make it freely availible period.

[lilfoo]

thanks again L_Mo, i should be partitioning my drive and booting up gentoo again in the next couple of days to have a look at this.

@mapes: i wish the GNU license said you had to put it in an easy to find space. and as L_Mo said you have to pay to get a link to the nicely packaged version.